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Stress
« on: January 02, 2018, 09:51:40 PM »
Posted this on the other place but wanted to share here.   I did not get into specifics of my stresses over there but most of you guys know what the last year was like for me.

I would have never believed that stress and stress alone could rob so much......

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Been while.   Hope you all had a great Christmas and Happy New year.   It has been seven years since I have been back in the gym.   My progress is something that has all but stopped for sometime now, but I am comfortable with where I am.    My progress the last few years is subtle, but still there.

You have many people who will tell you all about nutrition, or programs or even supplements (or other "supplements" ;) ) are important to progress.   I too would have mentioned these.  BUT I just realized that there is a BIG player which also has an impact.  I found out the hard way.   I would have never believed that it could be as powerful as it is....but I have just found out.

STRESS

Yep..... I'll cut to the chase and then expand.   This past year has been the busiest I have been in many years.   I took pride that I despite this, I never missed a workout.   My diet was not stellar, but I still tracked protein and averaged 220g/day.   I did not count any othrer macros.   I would not say my workouts were always great, but I can say up untill 3 months ago, I would still see progress.   A new cut or striation...etc.   I was eating by feel and active enough to still continue to lean out despite eating lots of junk food.   My weight stayed the same and I would continue to my slow leaning as I have been doing almost a year and a half.

Then about 10-12 weeks ago, things got very hard.   Stress ramp-ed up to an almost unsustainable level.  At times, I was barely staying sane.  I can not understate how hard I was was being pushed mentally.   STILL....I did not miss a workout.   The gym was not my priority, but I committed to stay in regardless.

Now here is the crazy part.  Sometime over the last 2-3 months, I have actually lost weight AND gotten fatter.   (larger abdominal skinfolds specifically).  NOTHING has changed about workouts or diet.    Yes I was eating like crap...but I had all year long and progressed as well.   Also dont miss the part where I lost weight while getting fatter.

I have in some ways "wasted" precious LBM while at the same time adding belly fat.   Only thing I can think is it sounds like cortisol at work.   I would have never believed it could be this strong.   I am thinking I lost between 5-7lbs lean mass in that short time.   The fat gain is all midsection.   Weird that my arms and dealts somewhat leaned during this time.

Very strange....but just goes to show just how much stress can affect gains.   In my case, I went backwards.   For me 5-7 lbs is the last 3 years of progress.   

I am through most of the big stress event and ready to get back to 'normal'.   I am not worried if I can get the lbm back.   I am sure that like any other muscle memory event, it will come back quickly when I get my lifestyle back in order.   But just wanted to share some food for thought on something we dont think of a lot....>AND just how powerful it can be.

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Re: Stress
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 07:10:58 AM »
Great post ID. Stress is a HUGE limiting factor for a lot of folks who sometimes don't even know how much they 'are' stressed.

I know personally that when I started going through this crap with blood pressure meds they were messing me up and that was causing stress and anxiety, which caused my BP to rise above normal, while on the meds. This stressed me more. I actually missed almost the whole last 3 months of 2017 in the gym. This did not help my cause in any way.

Now that the latest med 'seems' to be working I am committing to getting back in the gym and in the very least getting back to where I was pre blood pressure mess.

Glad to hear your pretty much past the real stress part. I still can't wait to see that house all done.   ;D
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Re: Stress
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 09:50:05 AM »
I think there is more of a mental game in this life than most people realize.

I also think your current physique is most guys' 'end game, so stop crying.  :D

Once the house is done you'll be right as rain and back to your old self I am sure.
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Re: Stress
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 09:59:10 AM »
Comes into play for me a lot for me when test is down. Last Tuesday was my pin day so at my lowest level. Was anxious about a long trip, so did not eat, drove 3 hours with anxiety, stress, low test and no food. Pretty much a recipe for muscle wasting.
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Re: Stress
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 10:19:59 AM »
Im with you Flex.   The mental part is just something I always took for granted.   I have given out tons of advice, but rarely do I talk about the mental part of all of this.   It is that desire and that alone that got me off my a$$ after my accident.   It is that same desire that made me grind out every rep and set ect.    That was all but gone and about the only thing I can say is "I made it in the gym".   But what was crazy was that was fine most of the year and I actually think I made a small amount of progress in the first 3/4 of 2017.    The last 3 months all but erased that.

@ Bando, it was not a drop in test.   I was on the same 125mg I always was.   I had thought about raising it up as a precaution, but I actually feel better at lower doses (energy wise).   I did not want to feel bogged down.   Might sound weird, but I have never been one to feel "better" with higher doses.  For trt, 100-125 is great for me.   If I go up to higher, especially into the physiological range, it might be good for working out, but not quality of life.    Since for me even at 500-600, I am not going to progress significantly, I dont think it is worth it to feel sluggish.    Looking back though, I do wonder if it would have helped.   But I think the power of cortisol would have negated any amount of androgens and still had the same end result.

I need a month or two to just get things slowly back on track and then I think 2018 may be the year I bring back some heavier training if my body agrees.   Not sure I want to bench heavy again, but I have been itching to feel the bar on my back and deadlift something for a while.   I resisted this past year as I could not afford even a pulled muscle as it would have sidelined me from what I had to do.

Just wanted to share the experience.   I think we all experience stress in many ways.   I for one am going to try to be more aware of it.   I dont think I could have prevented it, but possibly even getting in some good relaxation or mind focusing exercises each day would have helped.    I used to do these all the time (meditations of sorts).  Both of my growing and the function of the joints and my muscles lifting weights.    I can tell the difference when my body is in sync and working as a whole compared to when it is not communicating well and acts as separate levers.    I am not the biggest guy in the world by any means, but I believe a lot of my strength comes from my ability to get my entire body to lift something with a singular focus.   I can very much tell when it is there and it is not.   

Flipping that switch is like the old turbo button on an old PC.   :D   It turns my 286 into a 286 TURBO with a math co-processor...and a ega monitor! (ok who are the geeks who get that? ;) )

Good to be back.....I should be doing some more regular posting.   Thanks for being around this past year.   Watching a lot of your progress always help light what little spark there was.   

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Re: Stress
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 11:21:49 AM »

@ Bando, it was not a drop in test.   I was on the same 125mg I always was.   I had thought about raising it up as a precaution, but I actually feel better at lower doses (energy wise).   I did not want to feel bogged down.   Might sound weird, but I have never been one to feel "better" with higher doses.  For trt, 100-125 is great for me.   If I go up to higher, especially into the physiological range, it might be good for working out, but not quality of life.    Since for me even at 500-600, I am not going to progress significantly, I dont think it is worth it to feel sluggish.    Looking back though, I do wonder if it would have helped.   But I think the power of cortisol would have negated any amount of androgens and still had the same end result.

I'm thinking of splitting my dose and injecting 2X a week, it's a pain in the ass (literally) but currently day 6&7 I can really feel the drop.
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Re: Stress
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 12:02:34 PM »


I'm thinking of splitting my dose and injecting 2X a week, it's a pain in the ass (literally) but currently day 6&7 I can really feel the drop.

That is all I do.  wed/sun.   I only used regular needles for about 6 months.   Now I just back load 1/2" 29g insulin syringes.   You cant even feel it and I generally pin my quads or even delts are painless and easy.   Thinking of switching to sub q at some point, but if it aint broke......   

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Re: Stress
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2018, 01:05:13 PM »
Stress can be a real bitch.  Something we definitely take for granted.  Half way through the read I was thinking cortisol. 
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